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Post by trading4dough on Sept 14, 2010 18:03:52 GMT -5
k this is an important poll
it may give us a clue on direction
so its important for as many people to have input as possible
it will give us the results after its finished and i will render my thoughts based on it
its a quick poll and will lock an hour before tomorrows close
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Post by cosmic on Sept 14, 2010 18:09:42 GMT -5
It's a good poll. Let's keep it bumped.
Both parties have paid homage to the street. The R's did it with TARP. The D's did it with TALF and Stim1ofX.
I think the D's paid more, so maybe them? But then the D's tricked the bankers into becoming depository institutions and then hitting them with FinReg, trapping them.
So the question is how big a gift basket can the R's build to leave at the door of the bankers to curry their favor in November?
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Post by brosin on Sept 14, 2010 18:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by trading4dough on Sept 14, 2010 18:12:38 GMT -5
Need everyone to chime in here
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Post by theMIST on Sept 14, 2010 18:43:45 GMT -5
Republican victory in November
IMHO -- one of the main drivers of this rally
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Post by fariba on Sept 14, 2010 18:47:30 GMT -5
wall street would like a gridlock to limit financial regulationsand any other obama agendas that have not as yet been addressed. the tax and healthcare debacle is weighing heavily on the small business..it is ambiguous and the ramifications are as of yet unknown. job creation won't happen from private sector until ambiguity is addressed. at least with a dead locked senate(less likely)/congress(more likely). they can do little and hence status quo is better for wallstreet than the unknown. there is no question in my ind that wall street is disenchanted with obama. my brother in law is on wallsreet and i hear enough of that from him. you know where i stand, both are a bunch of idiots bent of ruiing this country. they just take turns. but i prefer gridlock because i don't think the country can take much more of OBAMA CHANGE..more like change you can live with out to me.
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Post by exabi on Sept 14, 2010 19:08:10 GMT -5
Gridlock is good...inaction is preferable to one sided mandates. (Added - Repubs)
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Post by demanuel2001 on Sept 14, 2010 19:28:47 GMT -5
I think it's fairly clear that the markets want a Republican comeback. Failing that we appear to have an unchecked socialist administration that will ram big unfunded government down our throats.
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Post by rebel on Sept 14, 2010 19:52:18 GMT -5
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Post by puurfectten on Sept 14, 2010 20:39:21 GMT -5
repubs.....this might sound weird but i think they and their benefactors have been in charge for a long time....obaba was put in office for a reason..and the dems got full control for a reason...now they will take back the house and senate..then the whitehouse...i just think it was the plan from the begining... 8-)i think the market just wants to make $$$ and will no matter who is in office...and when i say "the market" i'm not referring to the pension funds and 401k's..they'll just use them as leverage to get what they want...
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Post by blueskies on Sept 14, 2010 23:22:22 GMT -5
GOP hands down. I don't like either party, they are both complicit in this debacle we call an economy. As Puur pointed out, everything the banks and Wall Street wanted are in place now, and the street will make money regardless. The public is hugely fed up with the spending and our debt and unemployment. They don't realize that the republicans aren't going to be able to turn it around, but they are willing to grab at straws at this point.
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Post by timber on Sept 14, 2010 23:30:33 GMT -5
i really hate the GOP so i refuse to comment on this thread ;D
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Post by blueskies on Sept 14, 2010 23:47:23 GMT -5
Willie Nelson for president then the Whitehouse can have a REAL garden.
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Post by timber on Sept 14, 2010 23:53:02 GMT -5
Nelson supported Dennis Kucinich's campaign in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries. He raised money, appeared at events, composed a song ("Whatever Happened to Peace on Earth?"), and contributing a quote for the front cover of Kucinich's book for the campaign.
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Post by graysky on Sept 15, 2010 0:10:45 GMT -5
I'm of the thinking Republican That said, they have more influence in the markets and may not take this higher until they win office and/or control... If more power resides there, why not get the skeletons out of the closet now... then, bring the market and economy back... Or, at least the perception...
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Post by drtracyb on Sept 15, 2010 2:04:26 GMT -5
I was trying to find a way to put my thoughts into words without just looking like a bleeding heart liberal. But the media did it for me. I don't think anyone wants the Republicans to win as long as the crazies have a hold of their party. Hell, I'd be a republican if it weren't for their (anti) social agenda. news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100915/el_yblog_upshot/tea-party-victory-endangers-gops-goal-of-retaking-the-senateTea party victory endangers GOP’s goal of retaking the Senate With polls showing significant GOP momentum this fall, Republicans in recent weeks began to believe they had a real chance of retaking control of the Senate in November. But a major primary upset at the hands of a tea party insurgent on Tuesday may have put the Senate GOP's dreams of a majority at serious risk. In the biggest electoral surprise of the night, conservative activist Christine O'Donnell defeated longtime GOP Rep. Mike Castle in Delaware's Republican Senate primary. Castle, a moderate who once served as the state's governor, had been so favored to win in November that his decision to run had reportedly influenced Democrat Beau Biden, son of Vice President Joe Biden, to abandon plans to seek his father's old seat. But with O'Donnell's come-from-nowhere win Tuesday night, top Republicans in Washington now see virtually no chance the GOP will be able to pick up the Delaware seat this fall. As a result, they admit their already slim chance of winning back Republican control of the Senate is likely dead. "It's hard to see a path for us," one senior Republican official, who declined to be named while discussing party strategy, told The Upshot. "Never say never, but it has become much harder for us after tonight." According to Public Policy Polling, just 31 percent of Delaware voters believe O'Donnell is "fit" to hold office. She trails Democrat opponent Chris Coons by 26 points, according to the latest PPP survey. On Tuesday night, the National Republican Senatorial Committee issued a tepid statement of congratulations to O'Donnell, but a GOP official told Fox News the party has no plans of putting money into the race. Still, O'Donnell's surprise victory was significant win for the Tea Party Express, which spent $250,000 at the last minute to boost O'Donnell's campaign. Since the first primaries in early spring, she's the eighth tea party-endorsed candidate to defeat an establishment-backed GOP contender in an election cycle that has been dominated by voters choosing change over experience. Two weeks ago, Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski lost her primary race to Joe Miller, who was backed by Palin and the Tea Party. Other surprise tea party wins among Senate candidates this year include Sharron Angle in Nevada and Rand Paul in Kentucky. In Florida, Marco Rubio was also endorsed by tea party activists, although he's tried to move toward the middle since winning the primary last month. The difference between O'Donnell and other tea party-backed Senate candidates is she's running in a state that traditionally elects moderates. O'Donnell, a perennial candidate who once argued against masturbation on a MTV special, is not likely to move toward the middle, as Rubio has, and she doesn't look to benefit from the same anti-incumbent wave that's driven Angle's poll numbers against Harry Reid in Nevada. That's the key reason why national Republicans are so loathe to embrace O'Donnell's candidacy. Not that she cares. "They have a losing track record," O'Donnell told CNN Tuesday night. "If they're too lazy to put in the effort that we need to win, then so be it."
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Post by Rich on Sept 15, 2010 3:22:36 GMT -5
Nelson supported Dennis Kucinich's campaign in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries. He raised money, appeared at events, composed a song ("Whatever Happened to Peace on Earth?"), and contributing a quote for the front cover of Kucinich's book for the campaign. I met Kucinich at a 7-11 in Cleveland. Got his autograph. He used to be mayor. The press called him Dennis the Menace. Good guy, leans left obviously. He lives just off W. 117th st. Not a great part of town.
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Post by papasloth on Sept 15, 2010 4:24:50 GMT -5
I'm voting for Cthulu. Why pick the lesser of two evils?
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Post by ask2lern on Sept 15, 2010 7:16:35 GMT -5
GOP here...................GLTA
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Post by timber on Sept 15, 2010 7:29:42 GMT -5
Nelson supported Dennis Kucinich's campaign in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries. He raised money, appeared at events, composed a song ("Whatever Happened to Peace on Earth?"), and contributing a quote for the front cover of Kucinich's book for the campaign. I met Kucinich at a 7-11 in Cleveland. Got his autograph. He used to be mayor. The press called him Dennis the Menace. Good guy, leans left obviously. He lives just off W. 117th st. Not a great part of town. HES GOT A HOT REDHEAD WIFE.....Is he really only two feet tall rich
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Post by timber on Sept 15, 2010 7:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by timber on Sept 15, 2010 7:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by Rich on Sept 15, 2010 7:41:49 GMT -5
wowow!
He's probably 5'8" or 5'9".
She's an amazon.
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Post by novice08 on Sept 15, 2010 9:59:01 GMT -5
fwiw, the couple of ny bankers I know say they are "officially" Republicans now...have always voted Dem...one worked for Bear Stearns.
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Post by goncountry on Sept 15, 2010 11:03:31 GMT -5
Voting Repub here, and I have no problem voting for tea party candidates i like. But you'll have to consider the source - i think of every street cam i see as a clay pigeon.
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Post by natsalilfly on Sept 15, 2010 11:08:40 GMT -5
Voting Repub here, and I have no problem voting for tea party candidates i like. But you'll have to consider the source - i think of every street cam i see as a clay pigeon. LOL ;D ;D
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Post by natsalilfly on Sept 15, 2010 11:11:12 GMT -5
Willie Nelson for president then the Whitehouse can have a REAL garden. the kinda garden that is legal in CA for medicinal purposes?
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Post by timber on Sept 15, 2010 11:12:01 GMT -5
most likely a republican that stuck them up there after 911 ,,,,under the grand patriot act
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Post by torrentio1 on Sept 15, 2010 11:42:08 GMT -5
The liberals / democrats / progressives / socialists -whatever they want to call themselves in both parties are dead politicians walking. They just do not know it yet. They overreached and exposed themselves for what they really are to the American people...
This is just the beginning of a conservative reckoning that may take decades -it is not so much about political power as it is about individual liberty and overthrowing government tyrants -weeding out the spineless, lazy, or progressive elite politicians -taking the country away from the whims of bureaucrats and returning the country to its legitimate foundation -we the people and the rule of law!
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Post by goncountry on Sept 15, 2010 11:44:23 GMT -5
Timber, I agree - we have lost more individual freedoms under the repubs as the dems in recent years, and it seems to be a constant regardless of the party. That's where i think our country has lost it's way - the Patriot Act being a great example.
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