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Post by timber on Sept 15, 2010 11:46:21 GMT -5
by the way it wont be obama who takes your gun rights away...i can assure you that....it will one of these muslim hating teabaggers ,,,just like now they are trying to take away the 14th amendment away.....it will go something like this....a muslim shoots a few americans with a gun he bought legally.....fox will get a hold of the story....the teabaggers will shout for gun reform and amendments to the constitution like they are doing now.....obama wont touch the gun control issue....that to him would be political suicide.....mark these words before you lose all your rights
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Post by cosmic on Sept 15, 2010 11:48:03 GMT -5
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Let's keep this on target as a poll for mid-terms.
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Post by brosin on Sept 15, 2010 11:48:14 GMT -5
The liberals / democrats / progressives / socialists -whatever they want to call themselves in both parties are dead politicians walking. They just do not know it yet. They overreached and exposed themselves for what they really are to the American people... This is just the beginning of a conservative reckoning that may take decades -it is not so much about political power as it is about individual liberty and overthrowing government tyrants -weeding out the spineless, lazy, or progressive elite politicians -taking the country away from the whims of bureaucrats and returning the country to its legitimate foundation -we the people and the rule of law! Hey Torr - I'm curious as to your take on the GOP given that you seem to be a staunch libertarian. Had been meaning to ask you in the past, and its as good a thread as any. While they are clearly more towards your far right than the Dems, are you supportive of the GOP? Or do you see it as the lesser of 2 evils? (sorry I know this is not trade related, but thread is)
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Post by birthmark on Sept 15, 2010 11:55:33 GMT -5
Cos-- grab the wheel and straighten this thread out
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Post by birthmark on Sept 15, 2010 11:58:02 GMT -5
Cos-- I'm riding shotgun, got the map in my hands and am asking, like the Talking Heads, "How did I get here?!" ;D
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Post by brosin on Sept 15, 2010 11:59:50 GMT -5
Cos-- I'm riding shotgun, got the map in my hands and am asking, like the Talking Heads, "How did I get here?!" ;D "This is not my beautiful wife!!"
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Post by cosmic on Sept 15, 2010 12:03:45 GMT -5
lol
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Post by maxi on Sept 15, 2010 12:08:57 GMT -5
And another one bites the dust....
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Post by birthmark on Sept 15, 2010 12:11:35 GMT -5
LOL Maxie.
It took a left hand turn somewhere and never could find it's way back!! Even with GPS!
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Post by torrentio1 on Sept 15, 2010 12:26:28 GMT -5
The liberals / democrats / progressives / socialists -whatever they want to call themselves in both parties are dead politicians walking. They just do not know it yet. They overreached and exposed themselves for what they really are to the American people... This is just the beginning of a conservative reckoning that may take decades -it is not so much about political power as it is about individual liberty and overthrowing government tyrants -weeding out the spineless, lazy, or progressive elite politicians -taking the country away from the whims of bureaucrats and returning the country to its legitimate foundation -we the people and the rule of law! Hey Torr - I'm curious as to your take on the GOP given that you seem to be a staunch libertarian. Had been meaning to ask you in the past, and its as good a thread as any. While they are clearly more towards your far right than the Dems, are you supportive of the GOP? Or do you see it as the lesser of 2 evils? (sorry I know this is not trade related, but thread is) I probably seem more libertarian than I am because we do not speak much if any religion here. Libertarians tend to be morally neutral which is quite distant from me one of those God believers... Anyway, the Republicans more closely align with my principles some of which I will not compromise -besides, it is far easier to weed out a few RINOs on the right than it would be to reshuffle the whole deck on the left if one was considering starting real change with the Democrats -they will come eventually as they will have no choice... The Republican party is the beach head -RINOS are going to get weeded out -it will be a slow and deliberate process that may cost some seats in the short term; however, will change the direction of the nation in the long term. The elite establishment will eventually realize this ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin around -they will all be handed their pink slips...
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Post by brosin on Sept 15, 2010 12:30:08 GMT -5
Love the post Torr. Thanks for the clarifications. I still see the GOP as being a very centrist version of what they should stand for (little to no govt, individual freedoms, etc), but I think I align myself fairly close to you which surprised me a bit. The only thing that puts me off towards both parties is the spending. Neither has viable long term solutions when it comes to that.
Sorry for contributing to the the offroad turn there all. Alrighty break time over, back to the meeting. Hopefully I'll have time to close out my scalps today on a break before the market closes.
I bought RIMM today a little bit ago and sold the HPQ for a very nice gain (in the fantasy account).
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Post by trading4dough on Sept 15, 2010 15:35:51 GMT -5
K looks like fastopia is on target with the general concensus
Wall Street doesnt want Dems in
The only shot Dems get in is if this market continues to ramp because then people feel good as the market are a pulse of peoples moods
Repubs are not going to pass any bill that gives Dems any traction at all here
If you start to see Dems gaining support ( I dont know what the #s have been the past week or so) then the market will crash hard
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Post by ask2lern on Sept 15, 2010 15:41:25 GMT -5
Voting Repub here, and I have no problem voting for tea party candidates i like. But you'll have to consider the source - i think of every street cam i see as a clay pigeon. I think there is a conundrum with the tea party...............who will they affect the most?...................Brown's victory was attributed to the tea party vote and has voted with the Dem's...........I think it is all hogwash anyway...........the Fed will decide..........HA!
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Post by maxi on Sept 15, 2010 15:44:42 GMT -5
All of these responses were based on emotions. The poll really said nothing different than everyone always says regarding their political bent.
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Post by fariba on Sept 15, 2010 15:47:33 GMT -5
what the heck is this tea party nonsense. why can't we just have a fiscally conservative and responsible party with the future in mind, the health of the economy in the forefront and growth/science/math/technology andjobs as their running platform. of course other social stuff too. they are all a bunch of jokesters who love themselves first and last and like to hear the resonance of their own voice, hence the daily media appearnaces.
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Post by timber on Sept 15, 2010 15:56:19 GMT -5
there is no such thing as a fiscal conservative....there never has been....its an oxymoron an illusion....just look at their record if you dont believe me
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Post by fariba on Sept 15, 2010 16:20:19 GMT -5
i mean a third party. a party with conscience and principles of economics and finance and accountability/responsibility. i don't mean repubs or dems. but since our only choice is repub or dems, we have to go candidate by candidate. politicians that sacrifice reality at the alter of ideology scare me. see what problems we have and find real solutions to them
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Post by brosin on Sept 15, 2010 16:21:55 GMT -5
K looks like fastopia is on target with the general concensus Wall Street doesnt want Dems in The only shot Dems get in is if this market continues to ramp because then people feel good as the market are a pulse of peoples moods Repubs are not going to pass any bill that gives Dems any traction at all here If you start to see Dems gaining support ( I dont know what the #s have been the past week or so) then the market will crash hard The market is well past who gets into office in November. The stock market is not only 2 months ahead of us. www.intrade.com/?request_operation=main&request_type=action&checkHomePage=trueThe consensus is 70% chance the GOP wins the House, and 52% chance the GOP wins the Senate
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Post by brosin on Sept 15, 2010 16:23:22 GMT -5
i mean a third party. a party with conscience and principles of economics and finance and accountability/responsibility. i don't mean repubs or dems. but since our only choice is repub or dems, we have to go candidate by candidate. politicians that sacrifice reality at the alter of ideology scare me. see what problems we have and find real solutions to them just to play devil's advocate perhaps, but is there ANY politician who haven't sacrificed reality? I can think of a couple like Senator Paul, but he is a needle in a haystack.
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Post by maxi on Sept 15, 2010 19:20:31 GMT -5
Okay they don't like the Democrats.... BUT they like the Republicans LESS... Breaking News Alert The New York Times Wed, September 15, 2010 -- 6:31 PM ET ----- Poll Suggests Big Opening for G.O.P. Going Into Midterms Republicans are heading into the general election phase of the midterm campaign backed by two powerful currents: the highest proportion of Americans in two decades say it is time for their own member of Congress to be replaced, and voters are expressing widespread dissatisfaction with President Obama's leadership. But the latest New York Times/CBS News poll also finds that while voters rate the performance of Democrats negatively, they view Republicans as even worse, providing a potential opening for Democrats to make a last-ditch case for keeping their hold on power. Read More: www.nytimes.com?emc=na
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Post by trading4dough on Sept 15, 2010 19:22:06 GMT -5
watch those polls folks
you see Dems gaining traction ................. watch what happens to the markets
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