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Post by papasloth on May 26, 2011 21:19:40 GMT -5
Oh, and the comfy chairs. Must have comfy chairs.
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:22:05 GMT -5
Bunkers are too static IMHO. I highly recommend the mobile approach to Dystopia Preparation Solution. Consider a 4x4 F350 with a little camper on top, fully equipped with a nice bed, a soft pillow, plenty of extra diesel, water, batteries, Saiga 12k, M-4 with gp30 grenade launcher... The diesel is the weak link...otherwise I like it. Now if we can develop one of those small modular nuclear reactors the DOE is on about real fast THAT might be the ticket!
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Post by papasloth on May 26, 2011 21:22:26 GMT -5
If society collapses, my plan is to charge admission to the home theater. One movie viewing in exchange for two cans of food, just like "A Boy and His Dog." Better start laying in the porno.
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:26:10 GMT -5
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Post by novice08 on May 26, 2011 21:28:38 GMT -5
So the ranch it is...wish joe would come back and make it official...
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:29:57 GMT -5
If society collapses, my plan is to charge admission to the home theater. One movie viewing in exchange for two cans of food, just like "A Boy and His Dog." Better start laying in the porno. In full blown collapse you think people are gonna pay admission? 45mins after the first set of tornadoes last month they were already looting this AIN'T Japan.
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:32:28 GMT -5
So the ranch it is...wish joe would come back and make it official... I PM'ed him the link to make sure it gets his attention.
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Post by novice08 on May 26, 2011 21:37:22 GMT -5
GOOD job Jack! He's 'sposed to be here drinking with Timber and me by now! Gettin' thirsty... (never knew the appropriate use of this smiley, but sure you can clarify).
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Post by Rich on May 26, 2011 21:41:15 GMT -5
Practiced doing figure 8's on the bike in an 8' wide box. no way
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:42:13 GMT -5
GOOD job Jack! He's 'sposed to be here drinking with Timber and me by now! Gettin' thirsty... (never knew the appropriate use of this smiley, but sure you can clarify). In that case I'd lock the liquor cabinet if I were you! lol!!!
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Post by ppppp3571113 on May 26, 2011 21:42:33 GMT -5
Oh, and the comfy chairs. Must have comfy chairs. Nobody expects the comfy chair.
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Post by papasloth on May 26, 2011 21:43:41 GMT -5
If society collapses, my plan is to charge admission to the home theater. One movie viewing in exchange for two cans of food, just like "A Boy and His Dog." Better start laying in the porno. In full blown collapse you think people are gonna pay admission? 45mins after the first set of tornadoes last month they were already looting this AIN'T Japan. Here's a serious answer: Initially, there will be panic and chaos, including looting and violence. But, after a couple of weeks, the panic will wear off and people will realize that unless they want to spend all their time digging in the dirt, they'll need some way to barter for goods and services. It takes a certain amount of expertise to lay in the infrastructure for a home theater, keep it powered, run it, and so on. I think being able to watch porno on the big screen will be worth at least two cans of food to the survivors of the coming collapse.
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:44:53 GMT -5
Practiced doing figure 8's on the bike in an 8' wide box. no way Way! (...but to be truthful only on the Yamaha L5T 100cc "Trailmaster"!!! lol!!!)
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Post by novice08 on May 26, 2011 21:46:48 GMT -5
I got some mini bottles for barter, LOL.
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Post by ppppp3571113 on May 26, 2011 21:46:54 GMT -5
Bunkers are too static IMHO. I highly recommend the mobile approach to Dystopia Preparation Solution. Consider a 4x4 F350 with a little camper on top, fully equipped with a nice bed, a soft pillow, plenty of extra diesel, water, batteries, Saiga 12k, M-4 with gp30 grenade launcher... The diesel is the weak link! yeah i admit you are right. but I its paid for!
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:48:04 GMT -5
In full blown collapse you think people are gonna pay admission? 45mins after the first set of tornadoes last month they were already looting this AIN'T Japan. Here's a serious answer: Initially, there will be panic and chaos, including looting and violence. But, after a couple of weeks, the panic will wear off and people will realize that unless they want to spend all their time digging in the dirt, they'll need some way to barter for goods and services. It takes a certain amount of expertise to lay in the infrastructure for a home theater, keep it powered, run it, and so on. I think being able to watch porno on the big screen will be worth at least two cans of food to the survivors of the coming collapse. Too many sticky seats involved and who's gonna wanna clean 'em? That's worse than butchering beef - NOT me! LOL!
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 21:50:19 GMT -5
Nite Gang - sweet dreams.
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Post by novice08 on May 26, 2011 21:52:21 GMT -5
Ok, no joe, no timber...g'night to you too jack.
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Post by papasloth on May 26, 2011 21:52:42 GMT -5
Too many sticky seats involved and who's gonna wanna clean 'em? That's worse than butchering beef - NOT me! LOL! That's easy. If you charge two cans of food per show, run three shows a day, and seat 15 people per show, that's 90 cans of food per day. Hire four burly teenagers, arm them heavily, and have them be the "ushers." Pay them three cans of food per day. Hire a custodian for two cans of food per day, and let him live in the theater rent free, so there's a presence 24/7. He gets to keep the place clean and tidy. Net profit, 76 cans of food per day. It practically runs itself.
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Post by jack on May 26, 2011 22:01:14 GMT -5
Practiced doing figure 8's on the bike in an 8' wide box. no way Back! Just went down to the parking lot where I was practicing to check the box. Rich's right: no way! Box measures 10'-6" Sorry for the exaggeration. Seeya!
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Post by kbk3ck on May 26, 2011 22:38:36 GMT -5
Not trying to be too fancy here.. Papa was referring to CAPM/Modern portfolio theory.. there is a direct correlation b/w risk and reward.. All he was suggesting to park the money to risk averse portfolio which though might yield less return, unsystematic risk can be controlled. There is always going to systematic risk due to the nature of the stock market... ------few definitions --- 1. Systematic Risk - These are market risks that cannot be diversified away. Interest rates, recessions and wars are examples of systematic risks. 2. Unsystematic Risk - Also known as "specific risk," this risk is specific to individual stocks and can be diversified away as the investor increases the number of stocks in his or her portfolio. In more technical terms, it represents the component of a stock's return that is not correlated with general market moves. -------------- The CAPM is a model for pricing an individual security or a portfolio. For individual securities, we make use of the security market line (SML) and its relation to expected return and systematic risk (beta) to show how the market must price individual securities in relation to their security risk class. The SML enables us to calculate the reward-to-risk ratio for any security in relation to that of the overall market. Therefore, when the expected rate of return for any security is deflated by its beta coefficient, the reward-to-risk ratio for any individual security in the market is equal to the market reward-to-risk ratio, thus: \frac {E(R_i)- R_f}{\beta_{i}} = E(R_m) - R_f The market reward-to-risk ratio is effectively the market risk premium and by rearranging the above equation and solving for E(Ri), we obtain the Capital Asset Pricing Model (CAPM). E(R_i) = R_f + \beta_{i}(E(R_m) - R_f)\, where: * E(R_i)~~ is the expected return on the capital asset * R_f~ is the risk-free rate of interest such as interest arising from government bonds * \beta_{i}~~ (the beta) is the sensitivity of the expected excess asset returns to the expected excess market returns, or also \beta_{i} = \frac {\mathrm{Cov}(R_i,R_m)}{\mathrm{Var}(R_m)}, * E(R_m)~ is the expected return of the market * E(R_m)-R_f~ is sometimes known as the market premium or risk premium (the difference between the expected market rate of return and the risk-free rate of return). Restated, in terms of risk premium, we find that: E(R_i) - R_f = \beta_{i}(E(R_m) - R_f)\, which states that the individual risk premium equals the market premium times β. Note 1: the expected market rate of return is usually estimated by measuring the Geometric Average of the historical returns on a market portfolio (e.g. S&P 500). Note 2: the risk free rate of return used for determining the risk premium is usually the arithmetic average of historical risk free rates of return and not the current risk free rate of return. For the full derivation see Modern portfolio theory. What a load of Horse shit!!!! Do we get some Snake Oil with that too? Bwaaahahaha
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Post by kbk3ck on May 26, 2011 22:42:57 GMT -5
Ok, no joe, no timber...g'night to you too jack. Sorry Im late Novie!!! I stuck around after the concert and kicked some rocks and chewed the fat with my dad about him need'en to divorce his young wife that ran off 5 years ago. Crap!! Now i feel bad for be'n late!!! Sorry bout that. Me and him dont see each other enough and I didnt want ta cut it short.
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Post by kbk3ck on May 26, 2011 22:44:27 GMT -5
Damn!!! I missed a damn fine Thursday night party with my Fastopia friends!!!!
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Post by kbk3ck on May 26, 2011 22:50:19 GMT -5
Gold is not decoupled from a market downturn either, as we saw during the last crash when gold pulled back under 700 with the market. When th hedge funds start busting, everything goes down. Gold lost 30% back then. That was a big hit but not like everything else!!!!
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Post by davetherave on May 26, 2011 23:10:16 GMT -5
You know I would have had a real good day if it weren't for out-sized losses in AAU and DAC. I saw gains in WNR NGD ERX BOX. I bought a little AG at 19.55. Keepin the faith over here with some of these positions.
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Post by kbk3ck on May 26, 2011 23:26:58 GMT -5
Bunkers are too static IMHO. I highly recommend the mobile approach to Dystopia Preparation Solution. Consider a 4x4 F350 with a little camper on top, fully equipped with a nice bed, a soft pillow, plenty of extra diesel, water, batteries, Saiga 12k, M-4 with gp30 grenade launcher... The diesel is the weak link...otherwise I like it. Now if we can develop one of those small modular nuclear reactors the DOE is on about real fast THAT might be the ticket! Ya know, a diesel was invented by Diesel to run on Vegetable Oil. That way farmers could make their own fuel and not have to travel 50 miles to get fuel. Its the PERFECT post Apocalyptic engine!!!!
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Post by kbk3ck on May 26, 2011 23:36:11 GMT -5
And there were 20 m0re comments I wanted to make.... but whats the point now?!?!!?!? I alwayse miss all the fun!!!!! Yall need to look at ETP if nothing else.
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