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Post by elle on Mar 18, 2011 20:06:24 GMT -5
Anybody see the "Temple Grandin" movie - super, super peformance by Claire Danes - anyway, TG thinks in pictures. Bet she'd be a great trader.
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Post by brosin on Mar 18, 2011 20:07:40 GMT -5
uh oh clinton you better hide that from jack! (see the PPDT thread) ;D
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Post by elle on Mar 18, 2011 20:08:27 GMT -5
TEPCO Director Weeps After Disclosing Truth About Fukushima Disaster Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/18/2011 14:13 -0400 Fail Gross Domestic Product Japan Meltdown Uranium The Daily Mail has released a dramatic picture showing the emotional exhaustion of TEPCO managing director Akio Komori who is openly weeping as he leaves a conference to brief journalists on the true situation at Fukushima, following his acknowledgment that the radiation spewing from the over-heating reactors and fuel rods was enough to kill some citizens. "A senior Japanese minister also admitted that the country was overwhelmed by the scale of the tsunami and nuclear crisis. He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: 'The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans." This is precisely as Zero Hedge had expected would happen all along, following our recurring allegations of a massive cover up by the Japanese government. And furthermore as we predicted a week ago when we said that continued government lies and subversions would make the situation untenable once the population loses faith in the government, this is precisely what has happened. bump
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Post by brosin on Mar 18, 2011 20:08:30 GMT -5
PS it is times like this where I really really really wish Dualism were around
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Post by elle on Mar 18, 2011 20:10:45 GMT -5
wahre he go?
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Post by timber on Mar 18, 2011 20:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by brosin on Mar 18, 2011 20:15:07 GMT -5
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Post by isis on Mar 18, 2011 20:16:25 GMT -5
Is Elle a Furry?
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Post by elle on Mar 18, 2011 20:18:28 GMT -5
thanks, Bro ................................he'll be back
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Post by papasloth on Mar 18, 2011 20:18:44 GMT -5
OK, call me a paranoid cynic, but is it merely a coincidence that the true severity of the nuclear disaster is only being admitted now, after market close, AFTER quadruple witching expiration day? It's like someone said, "just hold off until Friday afternoon, then you can say whatever you need to say."
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Post by brosin on Mar 18, 2011 20:21:58 GMT -5
OK, call me a paranoid cynic, but is it merely a coincidence that the true severity of the nuclear disaster is only being admitted now, after market close, AFTER quadruple witching expiration day? It's like someone said, "just hold off until Friday afternoon, then you can say whatever you need to say."
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Post by elle on Mar 18, 2011 20:22:19 GMT -5
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Post by brosin on Mar 18, 2011 20:29:43 GMT -5
so what i don't understand is this:
how does this make sense? if the amount they detected is one-millionth the dose coming from ROCKS, how do they "know" that what they are detecting is coming from japan? is it that there are slightly different chemicals so that they know it is man-made? sorry, no chemist here ;D
Radiation From Japan Has Now Reached Northern California
REDDING, Calif. -- Small levels of radiation from Japan were detected by a federal radiation monitor in Sacramento Friday morning - the first sign that radiation from the country's unstable Fukushima plant has reached the U.S.
The U.S. Government has an extensive network of radiation monitors around the county, including systems operated by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Department of Energy.
One of these monitoring stations in Sacramento detected miniscule quantities of the radioactive isotope xenon-133. The origin was determined to be consistent with a release from the Fukushima reactors. The levels detected were approximately 0.1 disintegrations per second per cubic meter of air (0.1 Bq/m3), which is roughly about one-millionth the dose rate a person normally receives from rocks, bricks, sun and other natural background resources.
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Post by maxi on Mar 18, 2011 20:48:17 GMT -5
so what i don't understand is this: how does this make sense? if the amount they detected is one-millionth the dose coming from ROCKS, how do they "know" that what they are detecting is coming from japan? is it that there are slightly different chemicals so that they know it is man-made? sorry, no chemist here ;D Radiation From Japan Has Now Reached Northern CaliforniaREDDING, Calif. -- Small levels of radiation from Japan were detected by a federal radiation monitor in Sacramento Friday morning - the first sign that radiation from the country's unstable Fukushima plant has reached the U.S. The U.S. Government has an extensive network of radiation monitors around the county, including systems operated by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Department of Energy. One of these monitoring stations in Sacramento detected miniscule quantities of the radioactive isotope xenon-133. The origin was determined to be consistent with a release from the Fukushima reactors. The levels detected were approximately 0.1 disintegrations per second per cubic meter of air (0.1 Bq/m3), which is roughly about one-millionth the dose rate a person normally receives from rocks, bricks, sun and other natural background resources.As u know I am absolutely not a conspiracy person.... But in this case I have to ask..... How do we know and how would we ever know they are telling the truth? It could be years before anyone had symptoms. Also altho they SAID there were no residual effects from 3 mile island I remember a lot of talk a while back then that there were cancer cases... But they were covered up... So like the Japanese keeping the story under wraps who knows what is floating around outside along the West Coast....
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Post by papasloth on Mar 18, 2011 21:16:44 GMT -5
How do we know and how would we ever know they are telling the truth? I don't think we can ever know with absolute certainty, but I believe the following: Geiger counters are relatively cheap and commonly available. There are enough of them in the hands of Californians, that if radiation levels were significantly above what the press is reporting, there would be first-hand reports contradicting them. Even if you argue that the media would clamp-down on these reports, I still think you'd be hearing about them on the intertubes. I follow enough geek sites that I believe I'd be reading reports. Similarly, the affect of various levels of radiation on the human body is fairly well understood at this point. If the press was lying about how dose levels correlate with medical effects, the intertubes would be calling them on that. For example, Anne Coulter actually claimed that a certain amount of radiation was medically beneficial and helped to prevent cancer. I didn't read the article, but I saw the link on thedailywh.at. The point is, I would probably know about it if they were just making up facts.
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Post by jack on Mar 18, 2011 22:58:27 GMT -5
OK, call me a paranoid cynic, but is it merely a coincidence that the true severity of the nuclear disaster is only being admitted now, after market close, AFTER quadruple witching expiration day? It's like someone said, "just hold off until Friday afternoon, then you can say whatever you need to say." There's something you don't see everyday.
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Post by jack on Mar 18, 2011 23:01:35 GMT -5
How do we know and how would we ever know they are telling the truth? I don't think we can ever know with absolute certainty, but I believe the following: Geiger counters are relatively cheap and commonly available. There are enough of them in the hands of Californians, that if radiation levels were significantly above what the press is reporting, there would be first-hand reports contradicting them. Even if you argue that the media would clamp-down on these reports, I still think you'd be hearing about them on the intertubes. I follow enough geek sites that I believe I'd be reading reports. Similarly, the affect of various levels of radiation on the human body is fairly well understood at this point. If the press was lying about how dose levels correlate with medical effects, the intertubes would be calling them on that. For example, Anne Coulter actually claimed that a certain amount of radiation was medically beneficial and helped to prevent cancer. I didn't read the article, but I saw the link on thedailywh.at. The point is, I would probably know about it if they were just making up facts. Yup...plants (photosynthesis) like solar radiation too.
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Post by timber on Mar 19, 2011 6:42:36 GMT -5
what date did you become a bear brosin and what price did you first start buying faz?
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Post by cosmic on Mar 19, 2011 7:40:10 GMT -5
lol the Times Leader is the paper I delivered as a boy. I grew up north of Hazleton. This sort of stuff is always big news up there because of Three Mile Island. The Berwick plant was very controversial but overall has been safe. As to contamination from TMI - there were worse things in Pennsylvania than some minor radiation blasted out in steam. The mining for coal in the region poisoned a lot of the water tables, and strip mining caused a tremendous amount of damage including acid rain which then came back to haunt the surface vegetation. It was a lousy cycle that was only starting to end when I was still there. I was very sick in Pennsylvania but have been healthy in Florida. I attribute it almost 100% to the water.
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Post by Clinton SPX on Mar 19, 2011 10:51:25 GMT -5
lol the Times Leader is the paper I delivered as a boy. I grew up north of Hazleton. This sort of stuff is always big news up there because of Three Mile Island. The Berwick plant was very controversial but overall has been safe. As to contamination from TMI - there were worse things in Pennsylvania than some minor radiation blasted out in steam. The mining for coal in the region poisoned a lot of the water tables, and strip mining caused a tremendous amount of damage including acid rain which then came back to haunt the surface vegetation. It was a lousy cycle that was only starting to end when I was still there. I was very sick in Pennsylvania but have been healthy in Florida. I attribute it almost 100% to the water. Funny you say that I grew up not to far from a nasty steel mill that used to paint the sky in a orange/brown smoke and I got healthy after moving away too.
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Post by brosin on Mar 19, 2011 11:07:19 GMT -5
what date did you become a bear brosin and what price did you first start buying faz? LOL timeline time? Check out my blog Timber - you can find it all in there: www.fastopia.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=brosin&field=ordertime&order=desc&page=1 (might have to go to the 2nd page of it to find the start to my bearishness) Just perusing it, I see that I posted "Folks it's time for my Bear Avatar" thread 11/5/10 but quickly followed up with "Folks it's time for my bull avatar again" on 11/16/10I did also have this one (still very bullish) on 11/29/10 - "Close to having put in a big time bottom" ... I was more right than I would ever know and should have stayed longer, because I would only stay a few weeks We're very close (if not there already) to having put in a big time bottom. You know, the one that in hindsight looks like a 'duh' moment. In a month or two, we may be looking back at these last few sessions and saying "wow" as I fully expect us to be into the mid to high 1200s soon enough. The day that I started falling off the wagon offically was 12/10/10 when I posted my "I'm a bear (honey, avatar and all)" - I also sold the long term FAS position on 12/10 from mid-Aug for +40% in the $26s I know As for the FAZ, it went like this (found in my wrap archives12/23/10 @ $9.55 12/27/10 @ $9.41 (1/4/11 gapped below my $9.25 mental stop area so I decided to hold) 1/5/11 @ $8.83 1/24/11 @ $8.55 avg $9.10 / $45.50 post-reverse split 11/5/10 SPX close 1225 11/16/10 SPX close 1178 11/29/10 SPX close 1187 12/10/10 SPX close 1240 (oops) So by my logic I missed out on 8% upside which is way too much to miss. Gained 4.5% of it back though since then as I was fully short at 1340 SPX
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