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Post by brosin on Apr 21, 2011 15:11:01 GMT -5
Not looking good recently - this is only the 3rd day I have closed under the market's performance (2nd was yesterday)
Since 9/7/11: Unrealized Gains ---> -$976,351.50 Realized Gains ---> $1,186,473.00 Total Profit ------> $210,121.50 BigCap Performance -- > 12.01% SPY $133.77 -----------------------------------> 20.63% I AM BEATING/LAGGING MKT BY --------------------> -8.63%[/color]
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Post by ccash04 on Apr 21, 2011 15:13:46 GMT -5
Even the SPY is not up YTD when compared to the destruction in the dollar.
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Post by Clinton SPX on Apr 21, 2011 15:14:58 GMT -5
you need to just stick to shorting BAC every time it pops
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Post by snapplemoney on Apr 21, 2011 15:18:01 GMT -5
you guys need stop paying attention to all the detail and trade with the flow you will be more happier
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Post by brosin on Apr 21, 2011 15:30:06 GMT -5
you guys need stop paying attention to all the detail and trade with the flow you will be more happier The day I stop paying attention would be the day I stop investing and trading.
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Post by jack on Apr 21, 2011 15:31:48 GMT -5
you guys need stop paying attention to all the detail and trade with the flow you will be more happier The problem with someone like me trading with the flow is like the idiot who's never seen a tsunami before so he goes out into the bay to pick up the free flopping fish and then gets crushed by the 40ft tidal wave coming in at 60mph.... So if you can tell us how to better see which way the flow is going I'm sure a lot of us here would appreciate knowing...of course even an idiot like me could see it was going up yesterday and today so they don't count. lol!!! Thx snap
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 21, 2011 20:57:22 GMT -5
Just change your avatar and you'll be fine ;-) We are going MUCH higher .... 1400 by next opex ? ! You heard it here first
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 25, 2011 17:49:27 GMT -5
Just change your avatar and you'll be fine ;-) We are going MUCH higher .... 1400 by next opex ? ! You heard it here first BumpI usually don't give you TWO notices... But SINCE I'm feeling nice, here it is 2 X Don't make bring out the steam roller pic AGAIN .. he he Who's been right for .... say ,..... 9 MONTHS now ? ?
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Post by brosin on Apr 25, 2011 18:17:52 GMT -5
I don't know what you want me to say Clem - I've given you props
But I'm not going to become bullish just because you told me to ;D
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 25, 2011 18:26:31 GMT -5
I don't know what you want me to say Clem - I've given you props But I'm not going to become bullish just because you told me to ;D I'll give you till May Opex.... THEN I'll give you me JUNE OPEX target !! A Stuner !!! It's your $, I ONLY give free advise .... I really should start charging .. ha ha !
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Post by jack on Apr 25, 2011 18:27:36 GMT -5
Just change your avatar and you'll be fine ;-) We are going MUCH higher .... 1400 by next opex ? ! You heard it here first BumpI usually don't give you TWO notices... But SINCE I'm feeling nice, here it is 2 X Don't make bring out the steam roller pic AGAIN .. he he Who's been right for .... say ,..... 9 MONTHS now ? ? I'd like to believe you Clem, but after your portrayal of 9/11 as a US Gubmint conspiracy thing your creds w/ me are blown to shit. imho.
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Post by brosin on Apr 25, 2011 18:29:46 GMT -5
I don't know what you want me to say Clem - I've given you props But I'm not going to become bullish just because you told me to ;D I'll give you till May Opex.... THEN I'll give you me JUNE OPEX target !! A Stuner !!! It's your $, I ONLY give free advise .... I really should start charging .. ha ha ! FWIW I know that whenever I've gotten to that level of cockiness, I was about to get shalacked Also FWIW, I own some $10 Jan 2013 SLV puts as of late last week... judging by my position -- albeit small and mainly a hedge -- and your call for $100/oz silver, one of us is going to be WAY wrong, and one of us is going to be WAY right. That's what makes markets
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 25, 2011 18:40:33 GMT -5
BumpI usually don't give you TWO notices... But SINCE I'm feeling nice, here it is 2 X Don't make bring out the steam roller pic AGAIN .. he he Who's been right for .... say ,..... 9 MONTHS now ? ? I'd like to believe you Clem, but after your portrayal of 9/11 as a US Gubmint conspiracy thing your creds w/ me are blown to shit. imho. Wake UP Jack, my buddy. You've been LIED too ... it's a normal reaction. Watch the whole thing..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=elOj1j_FFYU&feature=player_embedded#at=54All parts. Your gov.co is not on your side. It is what it is, I ONLY speak truth. NOT everyone can handle that ... just sayin' ;-) WTC 7 , tell me a few small FIREs caused a structural steel building to collapse IN FREE FALL .... NOT POSSIBLE ME friend. WHO bought PUTS .... on the airlines stocks PRIOR to 9/11 to the tune of a 600 % increase ( above normal levels ) jack ....who done it ? I'll tell ya who. WHEN you ask. Your half way awake, I gonna get you ALL THE WAY awake !!
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Post by jack on Apr 25, 2011 18:46:40 GMT -5
I'd like to believe you Clem, but after your portrayal of 9/11 as a US Gubmint conspiracy thing your creds w/ me are blown to shit. imho. Wake UP Jack, my buddy. You've been LIED too ... it's a normal reaction. Watch the whole thing..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=elOj1j_FFYU&feature=player_embedded#at=54All parts. Your gov.co is not on your side. It is what it is, I ONLY speak truth. NOT everyone can handle that ... just sayin' ;-) WTC 7 , tell me a few small FIREs caused a structural steel building to collapse IN FREE FALL .... NOT POSSIBLE ME friend. WHO bought PUTS .... on the airlines stocks PRIOR to 9/11 to the tune of a 600 % increase ( above normal levels ) jack ....who done it ? I'll tell ya who. WHEN you ask. Your half way awake, I gonna get you ALL THE WAY awake !! Look Clem...DON'T dishonor the lives of all those people killed on 9/11 and those since in the wars with that horsehit okay. As far as the Market making new highs (and PMs) I can buy that, but don't try to sell me bullshit. Out.
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 25, 2011 18:51:29 GMT -5
I'll give you till May Opex.... THEN I'll give you me JUNE OPEX target !! A Stuner !!! It's your $, I ONLY give free advise .... I really should start charging .. ha ha ! FWIW I know that whenever I've gotten to that level of cockiness, I was about to get shalacked Also FWIW, I own some $10 Jan 2013 SLV puts as of late last week... judging by my position -- albeit small and mainly a hedge -- and your call for $100/oz silver, one of us is going to be WAY wrong, and one of us is going to be WAY right. That's what makes markets Brother Bros: Kudo'sn your PUTS purchase... It is very possible that SLV will collapse. I only hope you can collect when it does. It has nothin to do with PHYSICAL silver, only the derivatives associated with it and their lack of PHYSICAL silver, as they claim, and when you read their perspectous ....it's FULL of loop holes.... THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PHYSICAL BACKING... So, I agree with your purchase. Just collect the doe before they CANCEL ALL TRADES .... Physical is ALREADY starting to detach from SPOT ... www.gainesvillecoins.com/products/157026/2011AmericanSilverEagleS1(BrilliantUncirculated)ConditionshippingMay27th.aspx$51 + + Bank Wire
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 25, 2011 18:57:13 GMT -5
Wake UP Jack, my buddy. You've been LIED too ... it's a normal reaction. Watch the whole thing..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=elOj1j_FFYU&feature=player_embedded#at=54All parts. Your gov.co is not on your side. It is what it is, I ONLY speak truth. NOT everyone can handle that ... just sayin' ;-) WTC 7 , tell me a few small FIREs caused a structural steel building to collapse IN FREE FALL .... NOT POSSIBLE ME friend. WHO bought PUTS .... on the airlines stocks PRIOR to 9/11 to the tune of a 600 % increase ( above normal levels ) jack ....who done it ? I'll tell ya who. WHEN you ask. Your half way awake, I gonna get you ALL THE WAY awake !! Look Clem...DON'T dishonor the lives of all those people killed on 9/11 and those since in the wars with that horsehit okay. As far as the Market making new highs (and PMs) I can buy that, but don't try to sell me bullshit. Out. To dishonor those who lost their LIVES is to NOT Do a full investigation !!! Don't pull BS like that on me .... I AM A certified ENGINEER and A MILITARY VETERAN ( ARMY ) ... To NOT seek the truth is your DISHONOR .... Watch the video ...
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Post by brosin on Apr 25, 2011 19:01:44 GMT -5
FWIW I know that whenever I've gotten to that level of cockiness, I was about to get shalacked Also FWIW, I own some $10 Jan 2013 SLV puts as of late last week... judging by my position -- albeit small and mainly a hedge -- and your call for $100/oz silver, one of us is going to be WAY wrong, and one of us is going to be WAY right. That's what makes markets Brother Bros: Kudo'sn your PUTS purchase... It is very possible that SLV will collapse. I only hope you can collect when it does. It has nothin to do with PHYSICAL silver, only the derivatives associated with it and their lack of PHYSICAL silver, as they claim, and when you read their perspectous ....it's FULL of loop holes.... THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PHYSICAL BACKING... So, I agree with your purchase. Just collect the doe before they CANCEL ALL TRADES .... Physical is ALREADY starting to detach from SPOT ... www.gainesvillecoins.com/products/157026/2011AmericanSilverEagleS1(BrilliantUncirculated)ConditionshippingMay27th.aspx$51 + + Bank Wire Ah interesting - good call on the physical vs paper. Wouldn't that put you into the very bearish camp rather than the inflationary one though? Because I am very bearish, but that's what leads me towards deflation. It seems that there has been a shift in market participants where now all the bears have converted from market bears to huge gold and/or silver bulls (I saw that Ken is calling for $125/oz silver and a further huge market bull run as well). How do you envision a scenario where the destruction of the USD and all other market currencies will coincide with a huge stock market run. If all currencies collapse at once or something along those lines as seems to be the basis of your hyperinflationary argument, wouldn't you more think that the world would be thrown into panic, i.e. deleveraging, fear, and selling? I feel like that's much more likely than panic buying (in the SPX). Maybe Gold and Silver would do as well as you think, but I look at what they did during the large deleveraging in 2008... they weren't spared although did not lose as much. Help me see what you're seeing
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 25, 2011 20:15:05 GMT -5
Brosin:
You and I are on the SAME page. Only OUR timing is different.
First off:
1. Hyper is relative. High inflation is ASSURED. 2. China dumps (as they have already said), ben announces QE extension = + = further dollar devaluation. (+ Japan selling ) 3. Markets rally ( initially ) more dolla's chasin same goods/stocks.
4. I don't know everything, I'm not a insider. I'm learning as WE go.
5. The SYSTEM is going to collapse. Our financial system. Believe it or not: is also ASSURED. TIMING is much more difficult for this event. Sometime in 2012-2013 is my guess. Manfred says to expect it at anytime.
6. 80-90% physical money is your/our only prayer.... for the other side.
Deflationary collapse is what I see at the moment. But things are subject to change as we progress.... I can only see SO far into da future as the world is progressing at break neck speeds ... politics and future laws will dictate where we go.....
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Post by jack on Apr 25, 2011 20:22:06 GMT -5
Look Clem...DON'T dishonor the lives of all those people killed on 9/11 and those since in the wars with that horsehit okay. As far as the Market making new highs (and PMs) I can buy that, but don't try to sell me bullshit. Out. To dishonor those who lost their LIVES is to NOT Do a full investigation !!! Don't pull BS like that on me .... I AM A certified ENGINEER and A MILITARY VETERAN ( ARMY ) ... To NOT seek the truth is your DISHONOR .... Watch the video ... Good for you - thanks for your service and I mean that sincerely.
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Post by deadmoney95 on Apr 25, 2011 20:25:25 GMT -5
Look Clem...DON'T dishonor the lives of all those people killed on 9/11 and those since in the wars with that horsehit okay. As far as the Market making new highs (and PMs) I can buy that, but don't try to sell me bullshit. Out. To dishonor those who lost their LIVES is to NOT Do a full investigation !!! Don't pull BS like that on me .... I AM A certified ENGINEER and A MILITARY VETERAN ( ARMY ) ... To NOT seek the truth is your DISHONOR .... Watch the video ... horseshit. everyone, google "september clues debunked" and realize how horseshit conspiracy video idiocy like this is. no better than those "loose change/spare change" whatever the fuck morons with their pseudo-scientific nonsense about steel's "melting" point. make me fucking sick.
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Post by jack on Apr 25, 2011 20:28:19 GMT -5
Agree
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Post by clemsontygr on Apr 25, 2011 21:37:02 GMT -5
To dishonor those who lost their LIVES is to NOT Do a full investigation !!! Don't pull BS like that on me .... I AM A certified ENGINEER and A MILITARY VETERAN ( ARMY ) ... To NOT seek the truth is your DISHONOR .... Watch the video ... horseshit. everyone, google "september clues debunked" and realize how horseshit conspiracy video idiocy like this is. no better than those "loose change/spare change" whatever the fuck morons with their pseudo-scientific nonsense about steel's "melting" point. make me fucking sick. Watch the rebutle to DEBUNKING You people make me fk sick ... YOU are asleep . I';m a GD American Patriot and you call me a fuckin terorrist .... I FUCKING SERVED THIS COUNTRY WITH BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS SO FUCK YOU !!! BITCH
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Post by Clinton SPX on Apr 25, 2011 21:42:45 GMT -5
Sure is a lot of name calling lately.
What ever happened to proving your point of view with charts and links?
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Post by Rich on Apr 25, 2011 21:43:26 GMT -5
geez fellas.....easy.
what is going on here lately?
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Post by kbk3ck on Apr 25, 2011 22:16:48 GMT -5
Maybe we need counseling?
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Post by brosin on Apr 25, 2011 22:19:14 GMT -5
Maybe we need counseling?
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Post by jack on Apr 25, 2011 22:28:15 GMT -5
My fault...I fukked up again and I was wrong with what I said to Clem. I'm from NY...16 firefighters from my neighborhood station died there and the wound will never heal. Others here suffered much greater losses.
Everybody's entitled to their own opinion - forgive me for bringing this on and I apologize to Clem, Deadmoney and all others here for that.
Jack
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Post by kbk3ck on Apr 25, 2011 22:28:27 GMT -5
Good stuff Bros!!!!!
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Post by kbk3ck on Apr 25, 2011 22:29:40 GMT -5
My fault...I fukked up again and I was wrong with what I said to Clem. I'm from NY...16 firefighters from my neighborhood station died there and the wound will never heal. Others here suffered much greater losses. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion - forgive me for bringing this on and I apologize to Clem and Deadmoney for that. Jack Thats my Brother from a different mother!!!!
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Post by Rich on Apr 25, 2011 22:33:20 GMT -5
Maybe we need counseling? It's weird, ya know? Fights seem silly until you're actually in one. Then they're not silly at all. It's hard to condemn someone for being angry. It happens to the best of us. The apology by Demanuel tells me a lot. No one is perfect, everybody f's up, and a big man will step up and say he's sorry. Gotta watch that pride thing....it'll mess you up every time.
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